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From the River Thames Beach Party: Some More Thoughts on the Affirmation of St. Louis”

February 26, 2010

“Death Bredon” has written a very perceptive post, I think, on Some More Thoughts on the Affirmation of St. Louis at The River Thames Beach Party.  He may be entirely correct when he writes:

In sum, those traditional Anglicans who decry, and are dismayed by, the innovations and moral decay that runs rampant in the Canterbury Communion, and most especially here in the United States, are forced by circumstance to choose between a reading of the Affirmation of St. Louis that calls for a revival of the historic Anglicanism set forth in the Elizabethan Settlement and its constituent formularies, or the alternative reading that calls for the anachronistic creation of an English Old Catholicism that expressly rejects the Elizabethan Settlement, the Articles of Religion, and the unaltered Book of Common Prayer, all in favor of the sum and substance of the Counter-Reformation as it stood prior to the First Vatican Council.

After thinking a bit more about this, while I still think the ACC is one of the best hopes out there for historic Anglicanism, I certainly would be more reassured if they would change the cutoff point mentioned in this statement by Archbishop Haverland (1543) to at least 1549 (and I’d probably prefer a later date.)  It seems to me that we could find ourselves having to choose between historic Anglicanism and some form of what would amount to an “English Old Catholicism” as others have called it.

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  1. February 26, 2010 1:31 pm

    Just to clear the record. I think Fr. Hart is trying to find an accord between the authoritative statements of the ACC and the Settlement. He definitely is trying to give the Settlement a greater weight. However, how great a weight it has in the ACC depends on the discernment of individual priests, and this is my problem. Ethos and law ideally work together, and until they do, Anglicanism has a shaky future indeed. Right now the only place where you might have both is in the Western Diocese Mission of UEC. Everything else is ‘hit or miss’.

    • February 26, 2010 1:47 pm


      Point taken indeed, and I will state that Fr. Hart has come to be one of the people I most respect in Anglicanism. May he gain an ever greater audience – and perhaps some day we will see ethos and law working together, much to his credit.

  2. January 30, 2011 2:37 am

    Haverland’s article makes it quite clear where the ACC stands in terms of the 39 Articles and the BCP [1662] and even if one accepts the 1549 Edward VI’s first book of common prayer it is clear that Anglicanism is fragmented and one will ultimately follow any one of the following streams – Anglo Catholic = Old Catholic Church = Anglican Catholic Church and with Benedicts latest offer of the Ordinariate to ‘dissatisfied Anglicans’ = return to the Mother church or, hold to what is left – the Anglican Church with its multifarious options; and maybe we will have to be content with that! As a returning Anglican after close on forty years I am facing this issue head on and the choice is not easy to make. Of course there are many, many clergy who are quite clear as to what they want and how it is to be done. Fortunate indeed are those who have access to such parish communions.

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